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battery. and we are told she and a court martial were hurt and taken to the hospital after what you saw there. me laura coates, really unbelievable moment there. i hope that that judge is safe tonight. >> it's unbelievable to think about that. you hope that she is safe. but it also reminds you of the danger that many in the judicial branch are facing on a day-to-day basis, not just the supreme court, not just the more high-profile matters, but every single day, what it is like on the front lines of justice. thank you so much, abby. >> thanks, laura. i >> thank you. donald trump, goin...

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We don't say you have to do further congressional action so the -- fine kind of the same structure and has a shell language. if you engage in insurrection, or rebellion, you shall be disqualified from the office, president or -- or being elected. so, i think that is something to be considered more than a historical context of the amendment, and i think the supreme court will engage in a review, similar to what tim just said, with some of the laws that have been passed. and hopefully they're reconstruction -- >> but some would argue on that point, about self executing, which i know is a fancy w...

Context, at the legislative history perhaps, or the intent behind. it or the conversations around it. is it going to be enough to say, because the founding fathers left out the word president, that is it? that's all the marbles? >> -- enough. i -- when you go back to when this was actually passed after the civil war, i think it's unfathomable that robert e. lee could have engaged run for president after someone who -- couldn't run for president back, and because he engaged in -- also engaged in the same conduct and should not be able to run for president. i do want to touch on the self executi...

Think anybody is really disputing that former president did -- >> well, he is. he saying, i didn't engage an insurrection. >> his brief is actually funny on that point. because, he says -- he uses the example of former president trump didn't tell people to go into the capitol. but then it ignores the whole big lie that he's frightened -- washington d.c., and not telling people to go home for the three hours. so, it is an argument. but it's not a very fulsome argument. and so, i find it hard, when the 14th amendment is -- objection three -- is all about engaging in insurrection or rebellion for...