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First of all, it's the irony of paul manafort having been rebuked for breaching his plea agreement by engaging in so many lies to the fbi, to the prosecutors and then his lawyer going outside the courtroom and lying once again. i see it as what he's doing is holding out a flag waving it as high as he can to bring down the rescue plane. pardon me, mr. president. pardon me. no collusion claim is a complete n non-sequitor in this case. the investigation is ongoing. i think maybe paul manafort was still holding out for that pardon. >> david. >> it's not exactly a nonsequitor. both sides, the prose...
N non-sequitor to ask for less jail time. you're saying this case against manafort even when his documented lies and obstruction still added to the evidence and information suggesting a case of at least russians and some people on the trump side trying to work together? >> the care of trump's campaign. in the middle of the campaign is talking to people aligned with russia including someone representing an oligarch about plan that would help russia while russia is attacking the campaign to help trump. it's an act of collusion right there. mueller is not a fact finder. he's supposed to make case...
Accused, and was it one accusation? is it two? i think there has to be. john conyers is an icon in our country. >> do you believe john conyers accusers? >> i don't know who they are. they haven't come forward.or't >> you don't know if you believe the accusations? >> that's for the ethics committee to review. f >> tucker: nancy pelosi doesn't like anonymousr: accusations when theyny are leveled against democrats we noticed. mark steyn is anga author and columnist. and he joins us tonight. mark, i kind of have to agree with pelosi in that look, we don't know all the facts and i'm willing to susp...