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Hunter biden probably being target number one for republicans. and you're crying foul on that saying that hunter biden should be there, correct? >> well, i think that that is one of the witnesses that we would like to hear from and we're being denied that, yeah. leland: the question is why is it okay for democrats to deny -- i should say why is it wrong for democrats to deny hunter biden being there, but it's okay for president trump to keep john bolton or mick mulvaney or a number of other white house officials from testifying? >> well, one of the things that i would say is through this proce...

No. they had a golden opportunity to speak real truth to real power. but the nba stopped them. today the nba announced that none of the players on the tour in china will be able to speak to the media for the rest of the trip. wouldn't want any of them using their free speech the wrong way and criticizing their chinese masters. they're all like this, by the way. the coach of the san antonio spurs, gregg popovish, he's aggressively political. he calls the president a soulless coward who brings out the dark side in human being. okay, whatever. in 2016 he bragged that as an american he could speak...

Normandy. that's why this is happening? >> that's a non sequitur. having been a part of this apparatus, i would hope that didn't come from his national security staff. i don't think the talking points in this particular case were either read or were in anyay digested by the president. i think he just said what was on his mind. and i can't get into that. that comment i would just push aside. it just doesn't have anything to do with what's going on. united states has relied on the kurds to do some incredible fighting against isis which we have labeled an existential threat. and it still exists b...

Then they admitted, okay, yes, we were withholding that aid. they said it was being delayed by some sort of interagency process, whatever that means. then they told some lawmakers that the aid was being withheld so the white house could try to gauge the effectiveness of the aid in ukraine, a claim that reportedly struck some lawmakers as, quote, odd. the president and vice president mike pence then both claimed that the aid was being withheld because they wanted to make sure that ukraine wasn't too corrupt as a country, because you shouldn't sent any money to a country that's corrupt. within 2...

Country that's corrupt. within 24 hours that explanation from the president changed to what appeared to be a total n non sequitur where he said germany and france were also to give money to ukraine alongside us. if you think about it, that's a weird thing to be worried about. five minutes ago it was nobody should be giving money to ukraine because they're corrupt. now you want to make sure that the french and the germans are giving money to ukraine too alongside us because we're giving them money? i mean these shifting and nonsensical explanations for why ukraine was denied that military aid t...