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>> defense of the u.s. and secretary kerry, it's complicated. when we interviewed president obama about the red line, i was very aggressive with him. he was telling me, slow down. we don't know what the assad did here, the regime. four days later there was the bombing, and then pointed out, your days are number. this is complex. they have to find a way forward. making the case is also part of this. this is a tricky one. >> also, it's one thing to say assad should stay, but if you don't get the opposition to go along on the ground and stop fighting, it's not going to work at all. and the anti-a...

G gissendaner. reverend zap pashpa, i want to with you. what was it about kelly that inspired so many people to try to save her life? >> it's a lot of things. i think one is just her authenticity and the way she has taken her experiences, her experiences both of causing pain and experiencing pain, and tried to use those to help so many other people. >> what did she think about this disparity in the sentences? she conspired with her lover to kill her husband. it was her lover who delivered the fatal stab wounds. he did not get the death penalty. he got life in prison. as we just heard from our ...

Fact-sensitive. people either believe in choice or they don't. i got to put the questions to you because the only way we have the conversation. thank you for coming on "new day," appreciate it. >> thank you, chris. coming up, we'll test the other side, republican congresswoman diane black who sponsored the bill to defund planned parenthood, and also we'll have david on, the man who did the undercover videos. how doctored are they, why is he really doing this? alisyn? meanwhile, republicans in the house preparing for the post-john boehner era, the search for new leadership and new message. ...

Love to live in a fact-free zone. number one, planned parenthood is an organization nationwide that gives access to life-saving health care services to 2.7 million americans every single year. if you take away the funding from planned parenthood, that will go away and, yes, 3% of that goes to abortion services. and none of that is paid -- none of the abortion part, except for the ones that are allowed under the law is paid by taxpayer dollars. >> maria -- >> hang on. >> maria -- >> hang on. let me finish, ben. the part that the videos show, by the way, those videos have already been debunked b...

Said, if your organization had done something to take people to task for speaking this way about something that is so emotional and religious to a lot of people, it would have helped your cause. you know, i've asked that question, you answered it. >> the issue, chris -- i'm happy to say, but the issue is, we know those videotapes were extremely doctored. people edited them -- >> they're their words. >> one question to another question. they left all kinds of things on the cutting room floor. those are not fair representations of planned parenthood or of the work we do or of the 1% of our affil...