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Act very differently with their military. we saw a stark contrast when they met on the border of belarus. the russians showed up in suits and ties, and ukrainians, battle fatigues. we also got more information from the french, because they spoke with president putin of russia, the french president emmanuel macron. it gave us a sense of how unrealistic the russian demands are. they would like ukraine to give up their weapons, and recognized an area of land annexed by russia -- these are nonstarter's, and that's true for any peace process that would come out of this. >> a couple of us. >> >> har...

Strength. and again,an i'm talking about starting world war three under should americas ever put a single boot on the ground. should we at all ever enforcene a no fly zone? that's a nonstarter's. i we should have learned a lot in the last twenty years, if not the last 60 years. we cannot and will not be the world's police force. and i have said a this for days. joe biden needs to get off his and get ukraine those migs let t poland give them the migshe and anything else they need militarily. they seem very willingy and abf and capable of defending themselves with the right equipment dh . and in...

>> arthel: i can hear you, john. as we were watching the pomp and circumstance at the presidential palace, i mentioned earlier how president trump was the first ever flight, perhaps a symbolic connection. do you feel there is any openness on both of those leaders to perhaps come to the negotiating table and really try to start moving this forward to getting to some sort of peace agreement? >> hopefully. like judy was saying, how many years has this been in the process? as you pointed out, all those nonstarter's, that have been so contentious. as far as the president's trip from saudi arabia to...