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sixth amendment right to confront your accuser in court and you don't have to do it to exercise your second amendment rights either. the law in new york -- new york is a state that doesn't allow the open carry of firearms in public. the only way you can carry a firearm in public is to get a concealed carry permit. in order do that, you had to go to the sheriff and demonstrate some special need. it wasn't enough to say you want it for self-defense or you live in a high crime area or you have some need like that. you had to show why you as opposed to many other people should get a perm...

Call him out. we were together when that happened when she did that before we came on the air. these are people testifying today before the committee at this hearing who have been in critical meetings. cipollone reportedly with pat philbin. how much light can they help shed on some of those talks and then i want to ask you about somebody like scott perry, that republican congress, member of congress, who is a trump ally essentially, who reportedly according to the committee asked for a pardon. perry has denied that. do you anticipate we could hear more about that front? these lawmakers who all...

Or sworn under oath. he had conversations with the president, as it was happening. that's important to know. what about all the people who are in the room, when he was being begged to do something. those people need to be in the grand jury. senator tuberville, who took the call from him. he needs to be in the grand jury, raffensperger, rosen, not clark, all these people need to go. but let me give you one cautionary worried about this. and i'm very concerned about this, and that is, you're too young to remember this, but, when oliver north was convicted, and charged because he was selling arms...

President as it was happening. that's important to know. what about all the people who were in the room when he was being begged to do something? those people need to be in the grand jury. senator tuberville, who took a call from him needs to be in the grand jury. rosen. not clark. all these people need to go. let me give you one cautionary word about this. i'm very concerned about this. you're too young to remember this, but when oliver north was convicted and charged because he was selling arms to iran and taking the money and getting it to the -- >> yes. >> the el salvadorians, he was charg...