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And especially to do it with no note-taker in the room, that's really dangerous, because then putin gets to read out the meeting in the way he thinks is in russia's national interests. >> gentlemen, julia, thank you for joining us. coming up, president trump chats with three more potential supreme court nominees. and embattled epa chief scott pruitt pushes back on reports that he wanted jeff sessions' job. ahh... summer is coming.

And he thinks about getting along with a guy like putin and kim jong-un as the objective of the meeting. and that is not traditionally the way we do things. and especially to do it with no note-taker in the room, that's really dangerous, because then putin gets to read out the meeting in the way he thinks is in russia's national interests. >> gentlemen, julia, thank you for joining us. coming up, president trump chats with three more potential supreme court nominees. and embattled epa chief scott pruitt pushes back on reports that he wanted jeff sessions' job.

And he isn't being talked out of the idea of how damaging that can be to his public image and how many questions americans would have about that. that's kind of the most common question i get, is why is he still going out of his way to defend russia, to talk about crimea, if he is trying to say that he won this election fair and square? >> mike mcfaul, you said the idea of a meeting in which there is no one else in the room, given the shadow that donald trump is under, it just doesn't make sense. >> i agree. it doesn't make sense. i devoted my columns in "the washington post" this week, callin...

Know these issues cold. he doesn't know the history. that just puts the advantage to president putin. number two, you need a note-taker in those meetings. we need to know what happened. i was in every meeting that president obama had with russian presidents because we wanted somebody to be recording things in case there was a disagreement. and even in the obama days, there were disagreements about what happened in those be meetings. so i think it's a bad idea. it gives advantage to putin and disadvantage to trump. >> i want you to expand a little bit on that experience that he has, and we'll r...

Sunday night in the states and no one will see the crowning achievement. it does speak to his relations with norms. >> well, yeah. he is obviously not thinking of the other side and what they want to do with the summit, that's for sure. there were lots of norms that were broke and violated. other ones we have talked about before and no note takers for that first meeting. i used to be a note taker in some of the meetings with president obama and leaders it is god to have a record because the north koreans are reading out the meeting differently than our side. i hope that the next time he has a ...