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>> he's got the pieces in place to make his case to his case in a midterm election year. where as this is maybe playing into his hands or his supporters in this midterm and it plays directly into democratic supporters hands for reaching out to their base. this continues to be one of the most polarizing issues on the political scene. >> dana: immigration? >> immigration is, right? where you've got the same words, the same action will fire up the president's base like nothing el and fire up the democratic base like nothing else. so for that very small sliver of independents that turn out to vote...

Trump made that a complete falsehood. confirmed it was a falsehood to lester holt on nbc. if i were mike pence, i would go to the president and say, hey, look, you can't do that to me. if you keep doing this to me, i have tools at my disposal, i can start speaking more forth rightly. i can threaten to resign. there are all sorts of things he can do. what donald trump really needs is somebody tome discipline on his messaging, some discipline on the white house staff and instead, from all the reports that we get, it's an environment of chaos that the president thrives on. mike pence needs to ste...

They were crying, it was a very sad situation. you're going to go to mexico and put them across our border with no tax. i'll them them right now i'll get consensus from congress and we'll tax you when those air conditioners come so stay where you are or build in the united states. because we are killing ourselves with trade packs that are no good for us and no good for our workers. >> so that was candidate trump, eric, at that debate in february. fast forward to now and there's followthrough. for people from indiana, how big of a victory is this? >> this is not exactly what he promised to do. ...