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Supposedly interfering in the 2016 elections, as opposed to russia, which is, of course, a big bogus claim, which we can talk about that separately. but it's very important that we hear from mr. sondland. >> do you expect we got this letter from the white house today essentially saying that we're going to pretend that the impeachment proceeding isn't happening? as far as we're concerned, it's not a real thing, so don't expect to get anything from us. i didn't read that as a legalistic argument from the white house counsel's office. it seemed like sort of a declaration of intent. do you think t...

2016 elections, as opposed to russia, which is, of course, a big bogus claim, which we can talk about that separately. but it's very important that we hear from mr. sondland. >> do you expect we got this letter from the white house today essentially saying that we're going to pretend that the impeachment proceeding isn't happening? as far as we're concerned, it's not a real thing, so don't expect to get anything from us. i didn't read that as a legalistic argument from the white house counsel's office. it seemed like sort of a declaration of intent. do you think that will change anything in te...

Release them pretty easily, ambassador sondland has actually turned his documents over to the state department and how the state department, the commits have have to fight directly with pompeo and the state department for them. clearly it's going to be very critical testimony. >> that's an important point to make. >>the former ambassador va von vic will be up on tuesday. she's not pushing ukrainians to do these investigations. so we're getting witnesses in the middle of what could be a prolonged document fight. both the white house and the state department pushing back. subpoenas in play. demo...

Evidence that underlies it before the next person can take the next obstruction count. >> glen, do you have concerns on this point that these comey questions, if these are used as a prototype that it would be direct but incomplete. >> yeah. it's a tough call whether you want to ask mueller leading questions or nonleading questions. a leading question boxes the witness in. it's like special counsel mueller, isn't it true that you found that the president asked white house counsel don mcgahn to lie and cover up some of president trump's conduct. then bob mueller would say that's true. that's doc...

The importance of the special counsel and political reporter aat the "new york times" and political are porter for the "daily beast." does trump not know that he can't pardon state crimes? i noticed that waffle. >> i think everybody else in america knows that. have been doing that for 18 months. so maybe the president is watching the wrong channel. >> to use a colloquial phrase, we shot the shoo would pile on. she could have gone up to ten total. >> she didn't and she was explicit. her sentence wasn't related to the sentence in virginia. i think that's important. she was perhaps more modest th...