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So my question to you is, do you think that donald trump is in cahoots with russia? is he aware of what's going on with the russians? why hasn't he spoken about the russians? what is his involvement with russia that seems to be, that he goes to great lengths to cover up. >> yeah. so mike that is a question great question. and i think that is a little bit of -- i read anyway from director mueller's comments yesterday that is a little oit the frustration. the constant talk about the obstruction side of the investigation has somewhat eclipsed the more important in director mueller's eyes, clearly...

The obstruction side he contradicted things that the attorney general has said. on obstruction, when bill barr held his press conference releasing the report, he was asked point blank did the special counsel not make a determination because he thought it ought to be left to congress. barr said i hope that's not what he's doing, it's the job of prosecutors to make the determinatio determinations. i think mueller made clear in his statement that the constitution leaves it to congress. because of that constitutional requirement and the justice department policy it would have been unfair for him t...

To give us as to what was really going on there. do you think that even though there's not enough to bring a criminal charge, that these are very serious problems that you found and very serious misgivings and that you really did want congress to take a look at that. the problem is, i can't see him giving that much of an opinion about it. turning to the obstruction side, he's already opined that he cannot exonerate the president. so there he may be willing to speak more forcefully, and ideally, shed light on whether that office of legal counsel opinion really kept him from bringing a charge. a...

Investigation in order to get documents but say we're not moving there yet to a vote on the floor. >> begin to prosecute that single, which in that case was a single article. >> lawyers are telling this committee chairman if you were in an impeachment process, you could have a better case in court to say because congress is mounting an impeachment process those documents and witnesses have to come forward. >> that's the view from the justice department. i talked to a source close to the investigation. i said, can you imagine the situation where all the underlying evidence is turned over, inclu...

All go away just because some new devastating allegation is not produced, i think that fails to reckon with the seriousness of the allegations and the credible evidence that's already been amassed especially on the obstruction side. remember what we already know publicly in many ways is more serious and more documented than the allegations that led to the house judiciary committee to vote to impeach richard nixon. >> it has been, max, over two years. why does this president think he can manipulate the legal system? is it because he's having success doing it? >> i mean, it has been two years, d...