Bit with the clinton campaign. the way the clinton campaign and the dnc described it is it was never a kind of full briefing or a full paper, but she certainly was passing along her observations and her research to the dnc. now, nothing ever really came of it, but certainly the trump campaign is saying that while, you know, there s a lot of furor over the russian involvement in the election, it does seem as if the ukrainian government had some interest. and i mean, this woman, this dnc consultant, did have contacts in the ukrainian embassy, did have contacts in the ukrainian government, who she shared her impressions and they shared information and they shared research. so it s not exactly a frivolous comparison between the two. but do you believe that it s in the same ballpark? i don t know if it s exactly in the same ballpark. first, ukraine is an ally of the ....