they have been fighting russian-backed separatist ins east of the country of ukraine for years. a conflict has claimed more than 10,000 lives and they have watched russia invade, occupy, and annex the ukrainian peninsula of crimea in 2014 so they are very concerned that warming of relations between washington and moscow means potentially a loss of support for ukraine. it is worth noting, though, that president trump met with ukrainian president poroshenko in washington on june 20th, before he sat down with president putin in germany, and secretary tillerson is arriving in kiev and he is bringing along a newly appointed envoy who is a former nato ambassador who is now being charged with helping deal with the ongoing ukrainian crisis. >> ivan watson for us in moscow,