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dominated by republicans. what they are afraid of it might pass the congress as well with the president vito something he tried to start or probably something not being able to sustain a veto if he casts one. >> brit, you are painting a picture where it does not get fixed, it does not get repealed -- >> -- it's a train wreck. >> it's a train wreck and we are just dealing with it? >> right. >> i think the president is going to react in the same way he did when he discovered that purchasing health insurance is difficult. when he discovered that the exchange wasn't really working. when he discovered half the things he has discovered in the white house, i'm sure he will say he had no idea. he probably didn't. i mean, this is really the proof of the pelosi here to rum that you have to pass a law in order to know what's in it. another consequence, another surprise, and i think in the end they are going -- there are going to be some of these that they will have to amend it in congress.
the premium money that you need in order to pay these new benefits that you're going to have to provide and to insure the uninsured and the rest of it. well, that's not looking very good right now, and, you know, you also have i believe at your disposal some comments from the president of etna who is saying as much, of the major insurers. >> he was with liz clayman. take a listen. >> is the volume of the health care exchange signups at least where you thought it might be? is it lower, higher? >> i think it's lower than everybody thought, in part because it's struggled to get started but it's really not about the website. it's really about whether or not the program is designed properly to encourage people to join. >> is it? >> it's no. i think what we don't have is a system that is built for consumers. to go to healthcare.gov to shop. >> on cnbc earlier in the week he said are they going to be double-digit increases? are we going to get beat up