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Around her is failed forays into i am the indispensable nation. >> so you endorse her. >> if you read it, it's about opening space for change. a very tough graph about hawkish foreign policy and it's incumbent upon us. >> here's when i find fascinating. hawkish foreign policy last night we saw mike pence whatever donald trump thinks about russia -- but that's the point is the base, all the people around them, they're all still the same people. so as soon as donald trump went off stage, mike pence sat down at the table and said basically yeah if we have to shoot down russian planes over syria, ...

So as soon as donald trump went off stage, mike pence sat down at the table and said basically yeah if we have to shoot down russian planes over syria, let's shoot down russian planes over syria. he was extraordinarily hawkish. >> the reason you see the party leaders behind trump is not that he's the presidential nominee, they think that if he's the president, it's them in the driver's seat. >> exactly. >> it's the foreign policy the usual -- >> they think they're going to get their trade deals. >> they think they're going to get their way. >> yes. >> because he so often -- but i do think anyt...

I raised $1 million for him. that's a lot of money. he lost. he let us down. he lost. i never liked him as much aafter that because i don't like losers, but, frank, frank, let me get to it. >> he's a war hero. >> is he not a war hero. he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people who weren't captured, okay? i hate to tell you. he's a war hero because he was captured, okay? you can have -- i believe perhaps he's a war hero but right now he said some very bad things about a lot of people. >> immediately after leaving the stage at the gop leadership summit in iowa where that took place y...

Captured. >> are you blaming john mccain for his capture? >> i'm saying that john mccain has not done a good job. >> why would you say that you like people who don't get captured? it's a simple question. >> i do. why? the people who don't get captured i'm not supposed to like? i like the people who don't get captured and i respect the people who do get captured. >> why did you say that in the context of john mccain? >> you have many people who didn't get captured. i respect them lately. you have people that got captured. i respect them greatly also. >> others in the 2016 field now are openly t...

If you start boo'ing the moment that they get on the stage because you don't like what they're saying -- >> they don't invite them. >> that is a level of intolerance of people that are supposed to be tolerant that i find funny. >> what stunned me is that there seemed to be no effort as this is playing out to restore order here. >> right. >> this is a convention. this is a conference. there are rules here. if one group of protesters -- if you're going to say we can't silence this group of protesters. can you silence any group of protesters? >> right. >> this event or any event in the future are...