around her is failed forays into i am the indispensable nation. >> so you endorse her. >> if you read it, it's about opening space for change. a very tough graph about hawkish foreign policy and it's incumbent upon us. >> here's when i find fascinating. hawkish foreign policy last night we saw mike pence whatever donald trump thinks about russia -- but that's the point is the base, all the people around them, they're all still the same people. so as soon as donald trump went off stage, mike pence sat down at the table and said basically yeah if we have to shoot down russian planes over syria, let's shoot down russian planes over syria. he was extraordinarily hawkish. >> the reason you see the party leaders behind trump is not that he's the presidential nominee, they think that if he's the president, it's them in the driver's seat. >> exactly. >> it's the foreign policy the usual -- >> they think they're going to get their trade deals. >> they think they're going to
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