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They are going to have - >> it feel so much more soli to me today than it did before i saw this indictment, though. >> i mean, again on, the facts but on the - it is tricky >> you need to be able to prov that there were deliberately falsified business records falsified with intent fo corrupt purposes, and that the were falsified in order to conceal or facilitate whit collar crime today we got the recitation of the crime and the -- i didn't expect that much. i thought that with all th critique that this was such bubble issue in terms of the law that it would be muc fuzzier, it would be muc hard...

>> that's right. at the end of the day, you can talk about this in legal terms to, but at the end of the day think that if you had to bet right now about where this i going to go, this is going t be, they will be back in court maybe in december, they will b on trial maybe next spring it will go on i don't know, fo a couple of months maybe, in terms of the trial then at the end of this -- maybe we'll get convicted an he will pay a fine you know it i mean whoa that is what is going to happen but over the course of tha two-year period, he will hav to be in court all the time. they will be filing ...

Of dollars off of this and wil continue to do that. the problem is is that that is not gonna have any sway in a courtroom before a jury of you peers. >> debra, to don's point according to a recent poll, 75 of republicans feel as thoug an indictment should not b disqualifying. in regards to the upcoming 202 elections. what happened to the party o law in order what does it say that you ca run for president of the unite states while being indicted fo a felony, even if you ar convicted. >> it almost seems like they have been desensitized to fact and what it means to be an american listening to don...

This is someone who, ari melbe -- as you and i both covered, right? is one of the most notorious civil litigants, probably, i america. one of the most -- sewers and person being sued this is someone who has used the civil lawsuit to his advantage. he has contractor he has bee sued over it that is just a totally different in kind, what you ar able to do in civil court, wha the rules of the road are in civil court. the stakes vis-à-vis you personal liberty, and he has for all of the skirting of the law and all of the - the sort of -- the bravado that he has ha about it, he has never, in his lon...

But also, this has very real financial and health consequences for african american women in particular we are two and a half time more likely to suffer maternal death in pregnancy. it's in part because o structural barriers within the health care delivery system in the way that we are treate when we go and seek care so, this is an important lif or death situation for women all across the country but women of color i particular, and the africa american community i particular - this judge, in rolling back th approval of mifepristone would be rolling back the approval o two decades of fda approv...