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You nothing for that first line of your obituary. what history will remember you for is whether, when democracy was at stake, when we faced a choice between protecting free and fair elections or giving up on them, whether you voted with the forces of trump to undermine our future or in favor of democracy and for our children and our grandchildren to have a democracy. >> marc, we sometimes get to the point of asking, you know, wwrd? what would republicans do? i think we both agree mitch mcconnell would be 12 months in to governing sans filibuster, right? what is it in this moment that you think...

Troubling because, you know, we had always known that institutions, especially over the last several decades, that people's trust in our institutions has been diminishing. i think what is more difficult to imagine is that we don't have leaders today who are willing to put all the old rules aside because they don't apply anymore, which is why i think those of us who called for a removal of the filibuster to gain some -- to regain some of those norms that ben writes about, that we need that because the old rules don't apply. so i'm really -- i'm worried for the nation. i'm worried that the tyran...

Sides on the issue. what people like coons were saying is you can't pull this off any longer. what's so striking about this to me is how much biden is driving his own campaign and how much this was driven by biden himself. you saw him read that speech. the reason he's reading that speech, there wasn't time to put it on the teleprompter. he had to write it down and was reading it from his own notes. biden is in charge of this campaign. that's a difficult thing to do when you're running a national campaign. you have to cede some control. the question is he going to be willing to do that given th...

>> but there's only so much speaker pelosi can do. i met with house democrats, seasoned veterans over the last week. they said in this day and age of social media, where someone like representative omar or ocasio-cortez can have millions of followers, the old rules don't apply. and so, speaker pelosi may try to cobble together legislation, to send a message to voters. but the people who have political capital inside this party, are those with a social media following. >> okay. if you get off social media, the world looks normal. >> fairly different. >> but if you live on social media -- i mean...