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Tensions between those two streams of the muslim religion, does have international reach. and it is still being armed by iran, hopefully those circumstances will change. but they have staged attacks in south america and buenos aries and i know i was worried they could stage attacks in the u.s. so they're out there. and then there are some other very potent groups, like the islamic state in iraq and syria, isis, which is a really ugly mutant form of al qaeda. and they are destabilizing both iraq and syria at the moment, and maybe could metastasize to other places. it's a very complicated landsc...

Like the idea of a black president. now, the plipside is there are some black folks and maybe some white folks who really like me and give me the benefit of the doubt precisely because i'm a black president. now, that came as the president discussed a series of issues from health care to edward snowden. he clearly believes race is a factor. as for snowden, he again repeated it's an active investigation he can't comment on, but this time, he added i do not have a yes/no answer on clemency. bret. >> more on this with the panel. etd henry live on the north lawn, thank you. up next, the surprisi...

Unwittingly helped the same foreign services? we don't know the answer but you got to believe we're going to do our best to find out. >> president obama spoke last week to "the new yorker" and the editor wrote this. the president told me, i do not have a yes/no answer on clemency for edward snowden. that is active case where charges have been brought. there could be an argument there's no nsa e view without snowden. what do you think should happen to him given that? >> well, you know, he certainly sparked and kindled a very important debate in the country and true without the disclosures we wo...