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Collusion hoax. i said it was russian collusion. russian disinformation that started with my reporting. i believe in the test of time. when people look at these facts six months from now we will get the truth. >> martha: let's watch this exchange david holmes on lusenko and rudy giuliani. watch. >> the three priorities of security, economy and justice and our support for ukrainian democratic resistance to russian aggression became overshadowed by a political agenda promoted by former new york city mayor rudy giuliani and a cad cadre of officials operating with a direct channel 209 white house....

Wrote them. >> martha: so what do you say to her? >> first off, fiona hill said this was a russian misinformation story my story. lusenko was a prison every the russian regime. our state department tried to get him freed when he was named prosecutor general we applauded him. joe biden called him a solid guy. now because he took on the ambassador he is a bad guy. after we applauded him and stood by him. >> martha: i heard rudy giuliani say i don't actually trust him so much anymore lusenko. he has gone back and forth, he has never gone back and forth on the core allegation of what he said. he h...