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Really been able to fight on this consistently and he will say if he didn't make a public himself, then how serious the problem have done. what he is saying is that unless he is willing to be kicked off the intelligence committee he should just work inside the proper channels and they will spy. >> the majority of senators look at this program, they said it was legal and constitutional. one guy doesn't get a veto when he has someone he disagrees with. stossel: thank you. coming up next, my dog or brother and what "pharmaphobia." he says doctors shouldn't take it my constipation and belly pain h...

It should be banned like nuclear weapons, basically like something that is too horrible to use. >> now, that was a man who made ten million dollars from the last recession, perfectly, and legitimately. even he is saying, look, we can't go there. >> the amount of historical ignorance masquerading is astonishing. we have been negotiating over the debt ceiling since the first year of dwight eisenhower's presidency, when a bipartisan group of democrats and republicans said look, we're not going to raise the debt ceiling until you agree to some spending cuts. it took them a year. we have been doing...

I wouldn't do it. one guy doesn't get to decide. >> speaker boehner is no speaker newt gingrich, is he? >> well, and barack obama is no bill clinton. >> piers, if i may say something, i was there in 1995 and 6, with the previous shutdown. the issue was entirely different, as speaker newt gingrich, my great friend newt knows very, very well. the issue was the two sides couldn't reach an agreement on a budget resolution. and the president and newt gingrich, particularly were at loggerheads, the public blamed the republicans. but the most important issue there was about what the budget was going ...

That hard. politico reports that on august 18th, six congressman on the trip took an alcohol fueled post dinner dip in the sea of c galilee. yet another black eye for the republicans. mark halperin and john halperin are both msnbc political analysts. i don't know what to make of this, mark, and i am slow to jump on this. the other story was horrendous, this guy's attitude about women and their rights was beyond cave man behavior, but this, they go swimming at night. one guy doesn't bring a bathing suit. on this apac junket. it's a serious trip to learn about the situation politically. they tak...