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Those tests caught us by surprise but it also didn't surprise us that much. how dangerous, how big of a test was this, do you think? >> it was a lot bigger than anything they had tested before. this was their sixth nuclear test, jim, in 11 years. all the previous ones had been either fizzles or roughly the size the united states had dropped on hiroshima in 1985. this was at least six times bigger than that. what does that mean? do they have a hydrogen bomb yet? we don't know. there are many stages of a hydrogen bomb and they're probably somewhere along the road, but politically i don't know th...

Now. what we do know is that indeed this is at the least many times more powerful than weapons used on hiroshima and nothiagasaki. it could be a hybrid between traditional hydrogen weapon and bomb. the upshot is clear. from a political perspective, north korea attained the ability to deliver massive nuclear weapons capability against major cities around the world. i want to make clear to the american people and our allies in the region, this does not mean our country is in imminent danger. it does mean there's been a major change in the political situation, when it comes to the way the united ...

Subject? >> i think you make a very good point, thank you for the correction on characters rather than words, quite different, even 140 words might not do it either. i think what i would probably say to the president-elect is this is very serious. this is something that from ronald reagan on forward, on a bipartisan basis, presidents have understood that nuclear weapons are not something that should be heralded. they should be something that are very carefully thought about. that we are talking about weapons that are much more powerful than what was dropped at the end of world war ii on hirosh...

Know? >> reporter: we know the list of countries that are condemning this action by forth korea continues to grow not only here in china the united states, japan united kingdom the list goes on. if, indeed, north korea tested the hydrogen bomb. this is hundreds of times more powerful than for example the bomb dropped in 1945 on hiroshima and the bombs on nagasaki. this is a very dangerous explosive device that north korea says it would use to defend its sovereign territory. of course, that's been the regime led by kim jong-un, the defence for developing a nuclear program all along. what the un...

Oklahoma. you can see right there as rescuers have combed through the rubble they say now three times over. they say they are so confident that no more survivors are buried under the rubble. right now the death toll stands at 24 and that includes nine children. >> the twist was upgraded to ef 5. it caused more energy than the bomb dropped on hiroshima. two schools tower plaza and briar elementary schools. parents rush frantic to be reunite withed their -- reunited with their children. (sobbing) >> the students at briarwood elementary school escaping the rubble unharmed.