Getting the same level of access to ask the same questions and i think at times that's been lacking and i know the white house claims they're working on it, but certainly, this in-house kagen interview was a step in the wrong direction. >> jon: josh, thank you. and judy miller, syndicated columnist cal thomas, jim pinkerton fellow new america foundation and news day columnist elliss henican. here is a little about how the media did cover nominee kagen. >> accomplished poker player, opera lover and given that nickname that justice marshal gave to her, she's five foot three, brian. >> she's long...