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You have two hardliners who are really in line with the president's thinking about america's position in the world. that was not the case with mcpham mcmaster, so perhaps that left nikki haley not feeling like she had as big of of a portfolio on foreign policy. >> glamorous even. >> later he called it prestigious. >> while her departure and the time has all the heralding of somebody getting out in front of something. they do not have as many women in the cabinet -- >> yeah, it's 5 out of 23. >> this is really an optic problem for the trump administration. >> john, david, jen, thank you very mu...

Rick gates on trial. it is a much stronger defense to say that you can't believe rick gates and you can't believe the government's case. we don't need to put any witnesses on then it would be to put on one or two character witnesses to say paul manafort is a good guy. that to me is a not a strong case, a strong play by defense, it would probably be the only thing that they would do. the other possibility is there is a technical angle that they would like to pursue and so they may have a more technical witness. i would not expect a long case in p if any case at all. >> dan, you understand the n...

Picture back up of them all smiling. it's almost hilarious. the white house is calling this a hostage negotiation. who blinks first? >> it's a little close for the hostage negotiation metaphor. these are all early hours. but this looks bad and the president isn't leading in the way he prescribed president obama do when the last shutdown occurred in 2013. here's the problem for republicans, not only do they have control over government, but it's been republican congress against democrat president. so the perception has been republicans in congress cheer the shutdown. the fact this is happening ...

High taxed democrat leaning coastal states. it could off set whatever gains they get. families making of a million dollars are seeing the top rate in tax. that is not making it a gift to the rich. but the proposed elimination of estate tax after six years, this is an optic problem for the president in particular. because it looks like a giant gift to people in his unusual billionaire bracket. >> it is. >> it will exacerbate income in equality. eliminating it after six years is a political optic problem and unclear. >> you can argue the moral justification over the estate tax. you cannot argue ...

Aware. >> well, we first reported this last week and it was -- actually, it was our male colleague, ted barrett, who when i got the list of members of this working group said where's the women. >> we talked about it friday. >> we talked about it friday. now, i will say that some of the women who are in the senate and are very involved in this health care legislation and trying to make it right, susan collins among them, is saying you know what, i'm not worried about that. i'm still working and she is. other officials at the white house besides sean spicer have said that they do see this as an ...