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That would go a -- otto warmbier. that would go a long way to improving relations. chris: this is not the first time the president has taken the word of an autocrat over outside evidence -- >> when he says i'm going to take him at his word, it doesn't mean that he accepts it as reality. he accepts that's what kim jong un said. chris: so when he says i take him at his word, it doesn't mean he believes kim jong un? >> that's what he said. i think one way to prove that is to give the united states a full accounting. chris: this is not the first time the president has sided with an autocrat over o...

Was on the national security council staff for barack obama. >> look, this is all about the president being able to hire who he wants and have them in the position that he wants -- chris: all right, wait, guys. let me bring in gillian -- >> i haven't been able to confirm it. as far as the reporting i've looked at, nobody else has been able to confirm this. the key question is whether jared kushner actually ever took a polygraph and whether he passed or failed. as somebody who had a top secret security clearance for five years, an important part of the process for 95 president of the people is,...

Okay? chris: we should point out he was on the national security council staff for barack obama. >> look, this is all about the president being able to hire who he wants and have them in the position that he wants -- chris: all right, wait, guys. let me bring in gillian -- >> i haven't been able to confirm it. as far as the reporting i've looked at, nobody else has been able to confirm this. the key question is whether jared kushner actually ever took a polygraph and whether he passed or failed. as somebody who had a top secret security clearance for five years, an important part of the proces...

Interfered in the 2016 election. >> i have great confidence in my intelligence people, but i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. chris: why does the president trust putin and mbs and kim over u.s. intelligencesome. >> i don't think that's what he's saying. and, again, if you take the case of khashoggi, he and others in the administration have said repeatedly we want from saudi arabia a complete top to bottom explanation of what happened. chris: it's been months, and you haven't gotten it, and the senate has been calling for stricter sanctio...

Its failure, how much does it set back u.s./north korean relations? >> well, should it have been held now? no, it wasn't ready. and bolton is right that over three administrations the efforts to negotiate a good deal with north korea have failed. does it hurt u.s./north korean relations? i don't really think so. i think if you look at it in terms of north korea, they won. i mean, here is kim on his 2,000-mile trek on his train going to a state visit in vietnam after the summit, and now going back and maybe meeting with xi jinping, and he keeps all his nukes, and he's an operator on the world s...