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>> harris: pivotal hearing on whether he is immune from prosecution. >> you can't have a president without an interview, you have to be able to do your job. but if this didn't work out, if i wasn't given immunity, then other presidents, we talked about today, president obama with the drone strikes, which were really bad, they were mistakes, terrible mistakes, you can't put a price on that position. i think most people understand it and feel confident that eventually hopefully at this level, but eventually we win. a president has to have immunity. >> harris: this is "outnumbered," i'm...

Candle. instead of important issues like border, l.a. times spends a pair graph explaining she has her own line of signature candle scents, but won't share that basically staff called and asked to reproduce the 125 candles. sure, you can borrow it, don't replicate the scent. she was on vogue in sneakers and she complained. she is obsessed with petty things, how about doing your job. >> kennedy: to kayleigh's point, entire article is huge distraction from what a failure she has been at her job. first thing i thought when i heard the candle story. remember when paltrow had her candles made. >> h...

What do you, as an intelligence expert, want to see happen next in the russia investigation? >> well, look, in an ideal world, i think this pair graph length sentence from the president. i know the russians did it. the russians know they did it. we're going to move heaven and earth to find out how they did it and make sure it never happens again. i don't think president trump is capable of that pair graph. although i was heartened that h.r. mcmaster, the national security adviser, said something like that in an interview not long took. >> and lindsey graham. lindsey graham said he believes the...

Donna brazile and republican strategist, john theory. guys, thanks very much for coming in. this article in politico, it was tough. let me read a pair graph from it. house judiciary committee chairman john conyers told politico white house officials are, quote, not listening to black lawmakers. rep alcee hastings said there is not enough attention positive poor people. jesse jackson jr. said while i respect president obama, delivering victories for his political future should be the least of our worries on capitol hill. the members of the congressional black caucus went over to the white house...