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>> you know, matt, biden's campaign was defined by -- speaking of chaos, trump was chaos. i'm not going to be chaos. we're going to be science-focused. we're going to be this. i wonder if some might say the expectations are too high that he could govern a polarized environment? >> he wasn't going to say where he was. independents will come back to their general skeptical outlook. i don't think it's a panic number. it's not a good number. it's not what they want. they've got a lot of time. things are going to change. i think it's important to your point, he was elected, given a very wide margin...

>> matt, biden's campaign was defined by -- speaking of chaos. trump was chaos. i'm not going to be chaos. we're going to be science focused, we'll be this. i wonder if -- and some might say that the expectations are too high that he could govern a polarized environment? >> he wasn't going to stay where he was. we've seen the last few administrations, independents will come back to their general skeptical outlook. i don't think it's a panic number. it's not a good number. it's not what they want. they've got a lot of time. things will change. i think it's important to your point, he was electe...

Trump was chaos. i'm not going to be chaos. we're going to be science focused, we'll be this. i wonder if some might say the expectations are too high that he could govern a polarized environment? >> he wasn't going to stay where he was. independents will come back to their general skeptical outlook. i don't think it's a panic number. it's not a good number. it's not what they want. they've got a lot of time. things will change. i think it's important to your point, he was elected, given a very wide margin because he did represent a return to normalcy and dignity in the presidency. that's what...

But i want to give you a panic number. trump's reelect now, the closest ever percent of wisconsin they think that shutting down the wall is a bad idea. he is losing that sort in the heartland. his job, there was like two points between his job approval and percentage of votes in some of these states. if it continues to drop or hold steady, this is a problem for every republican in the battleground state running. i had a republican very close to the president say for system reas some reason he said this is a read my lips moment. he didn't have to make this his read my lips promise. >> he is a...

independently. al awalaki was a top member of al qaedaing and personally declared war on the u.s. a missile from the u.s. drone hit his car in yemen. president obama makes no apology and calls his death a major blow to al qaeda. >> he directed the failed attempt to blow up an airplane on christmas day. in 200 he directed the failed attempt to blow up cargo planes. and he repeatedly called on individuals in the united states and around the globe to kill innocent men, women and children to advance a murderous agenda. >> in an interview with cnn's erin burnett today, leon panetta defend...