jail bait. here it is. it's what you see after you click yes to the question, are you 18 and older? no other verification needed. just click yes. the presumption at least is that anyone viewing this page is an adult. the girls in the images which we've blurred are not, though. ins cases you were unclear what the group is about, they have a moat t motto -- quote, keep a teen off the streets, it reads, put her in your van. over on the right there's a blush reading, welcome to the -- no nudity. click here for more jail bait. is someone with a sexual preference for adolescence. just below the more jail bait link is a list of moderators, violent acrez, also i am anonymous coward, darkman x and religion of peace. needless to say these are not their real names, not even i am anonymous coward. understandable when you're the organizers or administrators of an online community set up xresly for grown-ups to look at photos of teenagers in bathing suits or underwear and post creepy comments about them. we're obviously not showing you the photos but some of the headlines give you a pretty good idea of what is being posted and p why. hot tub is a headline, teens at the beach, having fun with herself. at this point you might be asking where these images come from rand who gives their permission to post them. the answer is there's no way of knowing. read it list rules like don't use the word breaking. don't use all caps, don't be rude or correct someone's bantder. it doesn't say don't take some kid's facebook photo or your girlfriend's bikini shots online. in fact, rule number one on the list is don't post someone's personal information or links to personal information. that could be read two ways, don't violate someone's privacy by posting a name. users can be banned for violating that rule but not for posting swarmy, possibly stolen photographs. read it is not stopping them though it boasts about the good it's doing for the world. here's september 6th after splitting off from convict day nast. redity has the potential over the next generation to positively impact journal ifl, civic engagement, product development and learning. you be the judge if this fits that description. we of course wanted to know how red reddit and their current parent squares postings with those high-minded words about journalism and civic engagement and learning. we called the president about it and he actually sits on the board of reddit neither he or advanced publications wanted to comment and instead directed us to a general manager, eric marden. he told us, kwaet, we're a free speech site and the cost of that is there is stuff what's offense offensive on there. he says it's a platform, not an editorial site. once we start taking down some things we find offensive, then we're no longer a free speech site and platform for everyone. in addition to jail bait there's a community called asian jail bait and one where you can see photos of dead bodies, adults and children. with me now is senior legal analyst jeffrey booken who works for the new yorker magazine, also sunny hostin, legal contributor at "in session" on trutv. is this legal, jeff? >> as far as i can tell. i do work there. i hadn't heard of reddit until today. i didn't see anything illegal. the pictures of the girls, it's hard to tell how old they are. many of them are clearly older than 16, 17, 18. some of them are probably younger. but all of them are clothed. i don't think there's any issue of kiddie porn, illegality. is it in good taste? is it appropriate for this or any company to be involved? that's a very different question. >> is it okay, sunny -- do you agree? >> p i'm going to disagree with him actually. i think it's borderline kiddie porn. it's very close to the line. and the bottom line is that the first amendment doesn't protect child porn. so they are read straddling that line. also, even if they aren't, don't we want them to be good p corporate citizens? what happened to decency, korms rs corporations doing the right thing? why would you have a web site that sexualizes young girls? i looked at a lot of the pictures and i thought they were very, very close to the child porn line. >> if some of these photos are just taken off somebody's facebook page, they don't even know their photo is taken, as long as they're not using their name, that's legal? >> it's possibly a civil tort, possibly something that the person whose photo was stolen might be able to sue. it would be very complicate, difficult, i doubt such a lawsuit would ever take place. but, again, i don't think that's aa crime. one thing that the president of the company says that was quite interesting and wrong, i think, is that they are a first amendment site, freedom of speech site. >> right. >> that's not true. >> no. >> the phone is a common carrier. if i say something terrible to you on the phone, you can sue me. you can't sue the phone company. web site is different. a web site automatically exercises some control. you can see they have rules there. so the idea that they have no control over their posters, that's simply wrong. >> i think we're tired of people hiding behind the first amendment. it's cowardly. yes, it's there for wonderful reason and some offensive speech is frekted. kiddie porn sn not protected. again, it really, really straddles that line. >> i was surprised to learn -- i didn't know about the site, but when i heard about it, i assumed that it was just run from some site in eastern europe or some guy in his basement or living in his mom's house and dog this out of his basement. to know that this is, was under the convict day nast and now publication, it's amazing a big corporation would have something like this which reflects badly on it. >> it certainly was amazing to me. i was unfamiliar with it. but, you know, a lot of companies want to get involved in the internet, obviously a growth part of the business. and there are big parts of reddit that have nothing to do with sex or inappropriate things. unfortunately, it's like look at all the banks i didn't rob. >> the companies need to do something and stand up, be good corporate citizens and say, i don't want to be affiliated with a site. there are pictures of dead babies on that site. there are pictures that pedophiles -- >> pictures just of dead people. >> yes. pedophiles are trolling those web sites and they're getting off on it. i think something has to be done about it. >> we'll continue to follow it. sunny, appreciate it. jeff toobin as well. let us know what you think at facebook, twitter. up next, herman cain's controversial statement about why african-americans vote democrat being and his jump in the poles. later, the michael jackson doctor's testimony, testimony about what he was dog as michael jackson lay dead or dying. >> anderson, as amanda knox's defense team makes their case that her murder conviction should be overturned, we'll show you photos you've never seen before, exclusive pictures taken of her inside the prison she could soon go free from or possibly spend many more years in. that and much more when "360" continues our 4 new rich & hearty soups really have people talking... 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>> i think the third behind perry and romney is a terribly important battle because i think it is very possible one of the two front-runner sz going to stumble. therefore whoever is in third will move p up to second, it could be cain, could be santorum. it's important to keep your eye on. when you watch cain in the debates, what gets through is he comes through as so sensible, so direct spoken, so strong. and the reforms that he proposes are structural. no tinkering in the margins. he really wants to change washington and i think that from a ceo has a lot of appeal to republican primary voters. >> cornell, cain also told wolf he could take a third of african-american votes, basing that on anecdotal evidence. is there any polling that could help make that case? >> first of all, do you think you're going to invite me on the show and i'm not going to talk about the ridiculousnesses of that statement? two things. one is a great way to get people on your side and win voters is to attack their intelligence. great job there. really sensible, herman cain. the second part is, it's really a teachable moment. you know, if i came on your show anderson and said, all jewish people are brainwashed, i probably wouldn't be invited back to cnn and i aassure you the condemnation would be swift and powerful and strong. what herman cain said was a racist, bigoted statement and it should be treated like a racist and bigoted person who makes those statements. >> ari, what about that, saying black people have been brainwashed, how does that language play? >> i'm not even going there. i'll leave that alone. i think the downside to the herman cain candidacy are probably twofold. one, it's a catch-22 for him. he can't win because people think he can't win. if he continues and is just prince persistent and works the way he is and able to break through, he'll get through the hardest barrier, which is credibility because people don't think he can do it. that just comes from plugging ahead. the other i'm more focused on, is he he's never been in government before. while it's attractive on one hand, having worked in the white house, you need smn who knows how to do things with congress, get them where you want them to go. i wish he had been a successful governor, one or two-term governor. if he was, i would predict he could be the front-runner or also the front-runner in the republican race right now. >> you know, no, i'm all in on this one. ari, if he had come on and said all jewish people are brains washed, you would leave that alone alone? you wouldn't touch that but it's different if he says that about african-americans? why aren't you taking this on? >> i'm not taking on -- >> he's number three right now in the polls and he's getting into racial politics. >> pick your fight with herman cain. >> i consider you a friend. i'm -- >> don't pick a fight with me. >> i actually why you a friend fltd i'm not fighting you. i can't believe there's no condemnation about such a bigoted statement. >> cornell, let me just ask you. are you sure it's racist? i mean, don't plenty of people make the same comment, well, this group is brainwashed? >> what is the definition of "racism" or "bigotry"? it is in fact putting a blank statement on a whole group of people. again, anderson, i guarantee if i came on and said all jewish people were brainwashed, you wouldn't invite me back on cnn. i'm sure of that. there's a double standard here. this is a teachable moment. >> don't people often say, well, liberals think this or people make vast statements about groups all the time. >> well -- >> independent voters think this or -- >> well, liberals didn't have a history of jim crowe or slavery so is it's different. >> i'm not arguing with you. i'm interested in your perspective. that's why i'm probing around the edges. >> it's not argue the. i'm trying to it look at this as a teachable moment because clearly there's a double standard going on to me, and it's outrageous. >> do you think -- how do you think his statement, herlen cain's statement, are you surprised it hasn't gotten the reaction that you've had? certainly it's raised a lot of eyebrows, a lot of people are talking about it. >> that's my point. in all due respect, if he had came on the network and said all jewish people are brain washed it would have been top of the news and the condemnation would have come from all sides, including my friend ari fleisher. so my only point about this is you can't play the double standard politics. >> anderson, let me jump in. i'm not going to dwell on this topic, but remember the question was about people being poisoned about a party. there's a presumption in the question also that just flows from the fact that 90% to 95% of african-americans vote a certain way. but when people start throwing the word "racism" around that's when ind the conversation because you can't have an intelligent conversation when you're talking about that. i'm not going into that topic. >> when somebody mainly one makes a bigoted or racist common, i'm not having a problem calling them a bigot or racist. >> cornell, are you done? >> yeah, i'm done. >> let me finish. what's happening in the republican primary right now is this fascinating dynamic where there still is a search under way about who will be the leader of the republican party. republicans are thirsty for somebody who will change washington. that's my point about why i think republicans are responding so well to herman cain's rhetoric rhetoric. washington needs fundamental changes in the taxes and changes. when you have career politicians saying i'm going to do a little less of what awas done before, it doesn't resonate. herman cain has that outside perspective, he has the downsides like i said, but i think he's somebody who has a good chance to end up in that third slot and nobody knows what can happen from there. >> cornell, what do you -- herman cain's other point beyond his use of the term "brainwash "brainwashing "brainwashing" about african-americans in large numbers voting for democrats, his point being -- i won't try to make his point. it's clear that after can americans have traditionally voted democratic. to what do you attribute that? >> historically, you know, african-americans once reported republican when they could vote. you've got to understand that african-americans make policy decisions and change using reason, it's not about brainwashing. you know, there was still -- would it -- if i said that 70% of whites in the south vote republican, are they brainwashed? no. i think they're making a logical decision based on their values and their issue positioning. when you say a group of voters aren't making that same sort of rational thing, yeah, i think i'm right in sort of calling that p crap out. >> do you think he should apologize for that? >> you know, i don't look for an apology from had him because i don't think he has sensitivity or lingt to understand that. i think you it's amusing he's number three in the polls. quite frankly, i think he's not going to win south carolina. he's not going to win iowa and not going to win new hampshire. if you don't come in second or first in one of those early states you're not going to be the nominee for the republican party. >> do you think, cornell, that he is bigoted or that he is racist, or was the statement just in your opinion racist and inappropriate? >> well, i don't know anderson. when people are using bigoted statements, are they bigots? >> anderson, that's why i was making my point there. there are voter blocs who decide overwhelmingly to vote one way or another. i don't see why somebody is being racist when they say very vote overwhelmingly as a bloc and he used the word brainwashed. white southerners vote overwhelmingly in one direction. i don't find that racist. the word brainwash has the connotation of what mitt romney's father said in michigan some 40 or 50 years ago. 40 years ago. i think that's why it also raised alarms. but clearly there are blocs in this country who vote the way they do. that's been a historical pattern up and down every demographic strat ta you can divide the electorate over. that's part of america. always has been. >> cornell? >> if you say that, that's fine. but when you say that people are brainwashed a certain racial group is for doing that, that's the problem. >> interesting discussion. cornell, appreciate it. >> but it's not racist. >> it's bigoted. if someone is making bigoted statements, i have no problem calling them a racist or a bigot. >> that's why a lot of people stay out of politics, anderson, because one word and then somebody's accusing you of being a racist. programming note, we're announcing the arizona republican party and cnn will co-host a gop presidential debate december 1st in arizona, october 18th in it las vegas, 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. let's see if herman cain gets questions on that. still ahead, an exclusive look inside the italian prison where amanda knox has spent the last four years. also, testimony from michael jackson's doctor's trial. new details about paris jackson's heartbreaking reaction to seeing her father the day he died. up close tonight, an exclusive look at amanda knox behind bars in italy. matthew chance has a rare look inside the prison. more in a moment. yeah, i toog nl bud i'm stild stubbed up. 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