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Completely open to the public and available without any hacking at all to any interested person who wanted to look at it or mess with it. this is a state where all of the voting on one type of electronic voting machine with no paper record created at any point in the process. and all of those election machines, the whole system is all run out of a centralized election server. and what this computer security firm was calling to let them know, on the date that state's secretary of state was nah, this is ridiculous, we don't need your help, on the day he said that, this computer security firm cal...

We're going to rise up, make investments that will help mow situation our democrats and potentially susan collins or lisa murkowski. >> dana: thanks, brian. >> thanks, dana. >> dana: now for another point of view from a kavanaugh supporter. justin walker, a super clerk for anthony kennedy and law clerk for judge kavanaugh. let me ask you about this idea that there's a million documents they want to look through. i imagine a lot of them are duplicates. just knowing how the process works, having been there, there's the sent and receive. so maybe i can cut that down. are you worried about the pap...

Million to repair our election infrastructure. that amount has been zeroed out for 2019. as the primaries come to their conclusions and we head for the general election. the state department was given money, appropriated money to fight russian meddling. they admitted in front of the senate committee that they have spent none of that money. the fact that the president of the united states continues to call this a witch hunt and a hoax gives no one in these other states that are not prepared any incentive to move forward. we have 13 states that have no paper record in their election equipment. s...

The principals, several of which have already been arrested? can you explain how far from being a witch-hunt that's lawyering 101? and if they didn't do that they wouldn't be doing their job. >> this is on the opposite end of the prosecutor universe from being a witch-hunt. getting e-mails, text messages and other commune station the way every competent prosecutor or, as you point out, every lawyer in any kind of litigation begins to build their case. it's the paper record, it's contemporaneous when conduct occurs so prosecutors like mueller will generally issue these subpoenas. there's nothin...

Already. they can do a lot of mischief there. i think they want to hack into the voting machines. 13 states don't even have a paper record we can audit if they hack. >> should we go to paper this fall to be careful? >> we need a combination of the touch screens with paper. that can be audited. >> 69% is, seven out of ten americans believe the russians were involved in our election. they know, most people overwhelmingly believe 9 russians were screwing with us trying to hurt our democracy. >> sure. something that's been made really clear and comey said this in testimony, the russians tried to l...