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Conversation when the president floated the idea of 3,000 potential pardons out there. again, he's been circumventing the office of the pardon attorney right now. remember the doj guidelines suggest they indicate that you must wait five years after completing your term, your time behind bars before applying, before petitioning for the pardon. d'souza was only four years out. in that instance, the president ignored the rules. when he was asked about paul manafort, he said he hasn't been convicted of anything. i can't pardon him. legal experts tell me there's nothing that says you can't pardon a...

Jurors don't like when you have a deal on a lateral, which is me telling on you. you have to go up the chain. >> our boss is in a lot of trouble. >> i know nothing about him except that he gave me and my family a great opportunity. it is an interesting political question which is, hey, mr. president, if you care so much about michael cohen and this is so unfair, pardon him today. pardon him today. if it's so unbe fair, if it's so clear to you, pardon him today. >> look, i think we all understand the scooter libby pardon was a shot across the bow. if cohen flips, "the new york times" reporting ...

It's extraordinary. the idea of having an accidental client may be a possibility, where you give legal advice at a cocktail party and the person acts on that and thinks that you're their attorney. the idea of being an accidental attorney is what we're talking about here. where michael cohen has said, i am this person's attorney. he is one of my clients that i'm working with. but lo and behold, hannity says, not only did i never retain him, he never represented me win never paid him, i never got an invoice. now, the payment and the invoice, you could totally be a pro bono attorney for somebody,...

>> and that's the president fees biggest vulnerability and michael cohen's, because he can't pardon him, and then -- >> he's got a war on two fronts. >> thank you, john dean. always a pleasure. >> thank you, don. when we come back, two black men arrested in philadelphia at a starbucks. starbucks' ceo apologizing, but are apologies enough? and why do things like this keep happening in america?

Client, only to have the mystery client deny he's a client. and also, you can see the legal technology there. i want to make sure i'm saying this -- >> definitely not hannity's lawyers. >> he lawyered up. but go on. >> yeah. you know, this is the understatement of the year, that it's extraordinary. the idea of having an accidental client may be a possibility, where you give legal advice at a cocktail party and the person acts on that and thinks that you're their attorney. the idea of being an accidental attorney is what we're talking about here. where michael cohen has said, i am this person's...