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May of 2016 and offered damaging information on hillary clinton in exchange for $2 million. he now claims the meeting was part of ager effort by law enforcement to set up the trump campaign. both accusing the russian national of being an fbi informant. stone has denied contact in the past and said no information was exchanged and the offer was turned down. rudy giuliani says president trump will not issue any pardons during the russia investigation. he is not ruling out the possibility once the investigation is over. here is what giuliani told jake tapper. >> the president has issued no pard...

Charges the pardoning power is there. he is saying no matter what happens the president has a way to get out of this and it is %-p >> that will be a dangerous test for hill republicans. we will have to start potentially talking about impeachment. they have said these sorts of things before on policy issues and the president does whatever he wants and they sort of turn a blind eye. i wouldn't be surprised if he did. it would be curious. >> the person perhaps looking at a potential pardon or thinking about a potential pardon, michael cohen, ksomeone who we found out was a bit nervous and possibl...

Couldn't be clearer than what we need to do is let the special counsel do his job without either political or legal obstruction, including by the issue aenance of pa let me ask . your point is well taken about giuliani being asked about the pardoning issue, especially because the president has been issuing a lot of pardons lately. if you're giuliani, what do you say? what is the approiate response to that question? >> i think the appropriate response is to step back to the constitutional level and the president has this pardoning power and presuming this is yul yanni's state of mind, i have no...

I think every president has. jimmy carter pardoned thousands of people who, you know, refused to be drafted. so there's plenty of precedent. the more complicated issue i think is whether or not if he finds himself in trouble, and believe it or not, there is some research. when richard nixon, 44 years ago, was getting ready to resign, wanted to find out if he could pardon himself, the justice department's office of legal counsel wrote an opinion and said, number one, no one's above the law, and number two, a man can't be a judge in his own case. that's the existing authority. let's see if it wi...

Wasn't up to speed open the law, the rules and regulations? not me, fred. it's unbelievable. you know, the pardoning power that the president has in article 2 of the constitution. there it is. it gives him broad discretionary power to pardon and/or to commute sentences. you saw recently he commuted a prison sentence. that means you take the person and let them out of prison. they can get out early. that's a commutation. the pardon is a full -- there's mumbo and jumbo. i could pardon myself but why i would i do that. it's preposterous. as giuliani saying the president could shoot someone and no...