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Of course. we have to talk about with the president of the united states is doing. what he's been doing. talk about his deliberate and intentional strategy of attacking people of color. we have to talk about that. i wish i could say i'm shocked or surprised. i'm not. you probably aren't either. it is happening too many times. for the man who launch td his political career by pushing the racist birther attack on president obama. the president is the race baiter in chief. using his attacks to stir up his base and distract you. his latest target is house over sight chairman elijah cummings. no co...

This conflict have kind of locked themselves into a labyrinth and turned off the lights. and i think there is one obvious way out. it's something josh and i worked on in the 115th congress, and that is a compromise on immigration. probably the most divisive issue in our country right now. there is a very elegant compromise out there that's been staring at members of congress and the administration for two years, and that is more border security to fight drug trafficking and human trafficking at the southwest border combined with a permanent solution, a path to citizenship for daca dreamers, fo...

Democratic leaders in the house and senate aren't either. so i think that's the answer, and people in congress need to listen to members like josh gottheimer and others, problem solvers who can make these deals happen, who can sit at the table and actually find some consensus here. that's what i think is needed. >> that possible compromise you're talking about, yes, it has been floated before. it did come up in the rose garden today, that possibility of daca for border security, fence, wall, again, whatever anybody would end up calling it. the president seemed to be saying that court rulings l...

Discussion. i think this is the obvious way out of this conflict where both sides can claim victory because otherwise, the only way out is for one side to appear to capitulate before the country. we know the president is in no mood to do that, and certainly democratic leaders in the house and senate aren't either. so i think that's the answer, and people in congress need to listen to members like josh gotheimer and others, problem solvers who can make these deals happen, who can sit at the table and actually find some consensus here. i think that's what is needed. >> that possible compromise y...

Several outlets have also highlighted a list of inauguration protests and potential unrest. martha. >> martha: trace, thank you. joining me now with more and his reaction is trump supporter and former house speaker newt gingrich. all dolma also the author of the new thriller, "treason. good to see you. those numbers are so high. donald trump is not claiming that they are for real, these aren't either. you believe that? >> look, i think that he is the most controversy old person to become president in modern times. i think, five oh h points better than they are saying it is. the underlying real...