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The retail politics of it all, and the j.j. dinner is the biggest test yet of that. >> right. this is not typically a kind of setting that hillary clinton excels in. she will be speaking to democrats. but what we saw yesterday at the benghazi committee, those kind of grueling government grinding it out, that's where hillary clinton does well. she was never able to excite the crowds the way obama does. still, she's going to head into this tomorrow in a very different place than 2008. there is no barack obama this time around. it was around the j.j. dinner that barack obama put up this huge fund...

Evangelical, everyone assumed iowa was going to be for him 2.4%. rand paul, 2%. jeb bush -- jeb bush -- >> he has the fire in the belly. >> that's right. he has a passion gap. i think jeb bush, his campaign will tell you they never expected to win iowa but they have to do a little better than they are doing here in iowa. again, if you look at the new hampshire polling, jeb bush, fine. but then again, you have out of nowhere after a breakthrough debate -- >> john kasich. we'll like this. we'll like this. john kasich did very well. it was a hometown debate for him and even since, the way he's be...

Tonight. to john's point. jeb bush has lost a lot of altitude due to donald trump. what he has got to do is go on the stage tonight and show he is not just another bush who wants to be the next ceo of the family business. people know his name. but to the base of the republican party, it's not such a great name. he has got to prove that he is conservative he has got to show that he is one of his aides put it to me "the adult in the room." and he also anderson has got to show a little bit of passion. jeb bush may have raised over $100 million. but he hasn't sort of he has a passion gap. and when...

Woman elected governor and the party is poised to reject her. really? in bold print there. you said before this convention if she doesn't win, she has some soul searching to do. she didn't win, you won by 12 points. do you think martha coakley should be thinking about getting out of this race? >> no, i don't think she should be thinking about getting out of the race, but i think she does have some soul searching to do. after all if you look at the history of massachusetts politics for governor, for michael dukakis, 1974, to duval patrick, 40 years, no democrat has been elected governor without...

Are opposed to immigration reform. can you take paul ryan, mark zuckerberg is sporting him and groups opposed to immigration reform are spending half that amount. really there's a passion gap and also a money gap. people aren't as opposed to immigration reform as they are to obama care. >> brian, has it surprised you? the consensus coming a few weeks is that immigration reform is dead. do you think something might be happening? >> i'm less optimistic. two things, one, dead gap, obama care, enrollment starts in october and exchanges launch in january. if they're going to do anything about it, n...