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great people i met there who convinced me that a life of serving others was a way to be happy. jim to leery was great, father patricio wade, who's still alive working there, these were people who at an early time in my life really put me on a path i still feel like i'm on to try to, you know, be of service to others. >> what do you miss most about pakistan? >> i miss the warmth, the people, pakistani culture is a lot less hectic than american culture. and because we were working, we had the extended family, friendships. it was a level of perfection and day to day interaction that you do not find in the sort of very businesslike environment of the united states. >> you were born in karachi, pakistan, spent most of your early childhood overseas. what is the one memory you hold from that? >> i do remember that when we were in turkey, we used to go collect turtles in the iranian