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Landmine, yes. i want to circle back to this dud rate with the biden administration saying the weapons they would be providing — which are controversial — would be about 2.5%. in your experience it seems like it is a bit higher. what was your reaction when you heard the us wanted to supply these weapons to ukraine? if they are internally having a good look at what actually happens on the ground in terms of the real dud rates and they still decided to do this, i think that is a decision for them to make — it is not a decision i would have made — lots of countries have banned these weapo...

These types of munitions will substitute for singleshot artillery shells, it will cover more ground and it will force the to have to withdraw their personnel to avoid these types of weapons which will make it more feasible for ukrainians to advance more quickly. for some insight now on what it means to clear areas where cluster munitions have been deployed, i am joined by patrick fruchet, a landmine clearance expert. patrick, you have been involved in operations to clear areas in afghanistan and yemen, among other areas. walk us through how much of a challenge can be to clear areas after like ...

This, i think that is a decision for them to made, lots of countries have banned these weapons for a very good reason. i would be particularly concerned if they were actually just taking that to .5% failure late at face value and not assuming that it could be much worse than that because if that is the basis of making this decision it is an ill founded bases stop —— 2.5. decision it is an ill founded bases stop -- 2.5.- bases stop -- 2.5. patrick fruchet, _ bases stop -- 2.5. patrick fruchet, landmine - bases stop -- 2.5. patrick| fruchet, landmine clearing expired clearing areas in afghan...

Banned by many countries, cluster munitions leave unexploded bombs that pose a risk to civilians for decades to come.