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one pop. one pop. laid down, it was over. >> green county, virginia. 2009. 28-year-old patrick shemorry is caught on tape listening impassively to an apparent hit man boasting about completing an assignment, the assassination of patrick's estranged wife starla knight. friends and relatives are baffled over the description of the real estate agent as the architect of a murder for hire scheme. >> mr. shemorry does not if it -- fit the profile of a killer. >> where'd you put her remains? >> the lake. tied up with some chains i bought from the dump yard. >> uh-huh. >> that bitch dropped so easy, man. my stomach dropped. >> as the man prosecutors call witness number one records him with a hidden camera, patrick reacts with calculated detachment.

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him randomly as we understand and tried to get him to buy what i believe was cocaine at that time. >> not only does the witness claim to know the best places to purchase the drug, he introduces himself under a cousin's alias. >> that was the name he used originally with shemorry and his wife. so there were some issues with identity theft. >> patrick says the witness tells an erroneous tale about the recent deaths of his fiance and two children. >> mr. shemorry and his wife had taken some pity on the witness. and the witness returned to charlottesville with them to live with them for awhile. >> why is it someone you hang out with a bar in new orleans for a few days suddenly becomes your roommate thousands of miles away? that suggests, perhaps, that there's some void that needs to be filled, but again, i think of the temptation in these cases is to try and come up with a veneer of rationality. >> the couple doesn't intend to

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proof the authorities say the air force veteran truly wanted his wife killed. >> i don't know why he didn't consider divorce instead of murder. maybe there was some sort of worry or fantasy involved. maybe there's something deeper inside of him that preferred the violent option. maybe there was a level of antipathy or anger with her that divorce wouldn't satisfy. >> patrick admits he seems emotionless on camera but maintains he's feigning nonchalance because he's scared of the man who fabricated the story of murdering starla and throwing her body in the lake. >> i still talk to him, but, you know. >> starla's mother regina night believes her son-in-law. >> even talked with his mother. we were pretty much his parents and me was both in the dark with all this stuff that went on. it's like, you know, it's like

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of richmond. >> we didn't have any -- on scale of murders for hire, this was not one very sophisticated. he did not know this man really well, had no reason to trust him with something so significant. >> but patrick cannot know his miscalculation. as the two listen to music, the witness pulls out a crude audio recorder and turns it on. >> if you want me to kill the bitch, i'm going to kill the bitch. >> uh-huh. >> can you live with it? >> i can live with it. kill the bitch. >> patrick never realizes he's being recorded. >> say it. >> kill the bitch. >> say kill her. >> kill her. >> don't look at that. look me in the eyes. >> handle it. >> i think the tape's fairly show that the witness gave mr. shemorry an out. you really want me to do this? yes. >> you ask me to do this, i'm

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witness number one with $1200 to travel to the big easy and literally hunt her down. >> he goes to new orleans with the $1200 that patrick shemorry has given him. and rather than commit the murder that he's been solicited to commit, he goes to starla and he says check this out. patrick wants me to kill you. and he plays for her the actual recorded conversation in which patrick does make the solicitation. >> kill the bitch. >> say it. >> kill her. >> he was no more of a hit man than patrick was. i don't think he ever had any intention or knowledge of how to carry this out. >> shortly thereafter he walks into the local fbi office and talks with a couple of the agents that are there and provides the tape to them. >> dude, i've been a warrior for a long time. i've got the heart of a warrior, man. she's a [ bleep ] casualty. >> it's good to make sure the witness hadn't tampered with the tape such that they're only

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remain in charlottesville. patrick quits his job anticipating a permanent move to new orleans. >> they come and told me that they was going to move to new orleans. they was going to sell everything and go to new orleans. they was going to open up a restaurant down there. >> in the interim i believe they developed more marital problems, so that plan disintegrated. >> as the marriage resolves, the condo is a scene of it's a stream of parties. >> it does sound like at some point both of them engaged in some extramarital sexual relationships. >> eventually starla returns to new orleans alone. moving in with friends she made during the trip. patrick informs his mother-in-law about the turn of events. >> he just told me that things was over between them. i never thought that i would lose him for a son-in-law

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>> she's a disgrace. she's disgraced everything. herself, her family, me, you. >> i didn't know she disgraced me. >> everything she touched, man. she wrecks people. >> even after starla leaves and relocated to new orleans, patrick maintains it's the witness who orchestrates the plot. in a letter to msnbc, patrick writes he spoke of killer women who came to murder their exes. he had through his manipulations made starla into a clear and present danger. and then projected himself as the solution. i eventually submitted to his way of thinking and agreed to the crime. >> it's hard to know exactly what happened, who put that idea out there. but from what the tapes show, mr. shemorry was dead set on seeing this accomplished. >> starla did not respond to msnbc's interview request.

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but regina knight says her daughter forgives patrick. >> some have said why are you defending him? you know, he was trying to kill your daughter. and i just felt like the lord was in control. so why should i be angry? he didn't kill my daughter. that's the blessing of it. >> patrick accepts his fate taking up painting as well as teaching yoga and meditation to other inmates in prison. >> he doesn't argue that he's innocent. he is chagrinned, embarrassed, so sorry. and wanting to get out and live the life that he should have been living all along. >> is there a lesson? there's probably a lot of lessons. don't plan to kill your wife. if you're a criminal, know your friends. >> with all the technology and ability we have to record conversations, it oftentimes comes down to old fashioned

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