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Runs a tight ship. what do you make of her style? >> look, the -- what most people don't understand is in the last 20, 30 years, there's been a swig, a pendulum swing in the types of people that get appointed to be judge and the overwhelming majority or ex prosecutors, so they come to the bench with that perspective. having said that, there is something, i think, endearing about this brisk style. i think she's a great judge in the sense that she takes no non-sense. she keeps everybody on board. the only thing i would ask about her and what i think i really like about her, is she's an equal opp...

Randi kaye, cnn new york. >> joining me once again, my panel, mark, the judge certainly runs a tight ship. what do you make of her style? >> look, the -- what most people don't understand is in the last 20, 30 years, there's been a swig, a pendulum swing in the types of people that get appointed to be judge and the overwhelming majority or ex prosecutors, so they come to the bench with that perspective. having said that, there is something, i think, endearing about this brisk style. i think she's a great judge in the sense that she takes no non-sense. she keeps everybody on board. the only thi...

And at that point you may begin to see the pendulum swing. >> they have to do proactive things and pick fights. i mean, you can't win unless you fight, and i think my question to you is, there's now going to be another special session starting july 1st. they're going to ram this through. i don't see any way the democrats stop it in that special session. what happens after that? >> well, you say they have to pick issues. in some ways the issues are chosen for them. you know, in some ways the best argument for the democrats to come back in the minds of a lot of these democrats is governor rick p...

Republicans who had already been on record to be open to background checks, so i think, you know, there is some optimism and i think she's right the pendulum swing began this week. >> i don't want to -- the more 0 excitement, the better. >> over the last 20 years the nra dominate this had debate and now i think we're at the beginning. >> you have to win the senate. you have to beat the next filibuster attempt. then you have to get boehner to have the nerve or the guts, whatever you want to call it, to bring it up in the house. then to the 218 to allow him to break the rule. you're going to hav...

>> you have 52 democrats. you need seven republicans, to be blunt about, it to clear a filibuster. >> yes, we cleared the filibuster. >> to begin the debate. >> exactly. but we're not looking for 60. we're looking for a lot more than that. >> i'm worried about getting the 60, not getting a lot more than that. you're so frisky about this. you're already talking about more than 60. >> we're headed to the house. the house is goal. >> i think there are pickups you can look at. mark kirk -- >> he's already on my list. i counted him. >> you counted him. susan collins. maybe even john mccain you have...