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Mark preston joins us. it is ncaa tournament season. let's have our own bracketology. we do not have the security guys. we don't have kelly. >> right. >> we don't have mcmaster here. mattis hasn't been discussed. they are important people. a different part of the analysis. let's stick with these guys. let's start with the least likely to go in this estimation. of these people who is least likely? >> anything we say could change in a matter of seconds if president trump is watching and tweetsous that he has since fired somebody. let's look at the education secretary. >> betsy devos. >> didn't q...

>> orve lip she backobviously sr in a corner. >> that shouldn't be backing in a corner. you would tell me yes. >> the answer did she go to schools specifically because they were poorly performing. that doesn't mean she hasn't been. she didn't go because they are poor performing schools. i go back to the point -- >> she said i have not intentionally visited schools that are under performing. >> she wasn't the secretary of education. she was there to try to create an opportunity for charter schools so the schools of which you just referred to, the michigan has the public schools are not very goo...

Companies more focused on profits than students, unwillingness to invest in public education. there are more opportunities for affluent students, not enough for low income students. those are places where she could be leading but isn't. >> some of the charter schools are pretty good. >> as you look nationally there are places where you have high performing charters, but the problem? michigan is there is no accountability for charter performance. you have a proliferation of low performing schools, examples of corruption, and you don't have the commitment in michigan that you have in other state...

Explain why schools in her home state of michigan continue to perform poorly. for years, as you know, devos' family contributed millions of dollars to expand school choice as well as charter schools in michigan, despite that nationwide ranking, the nationwide ranking of school performance found that michigan ranked 35th in the nation with an overall grade of c minus. now, devos couldn't explain why despite the program she's champ pond schools in her home state continue to struggle. also, it makes it a tough sell for devos who continues to push for tax dollars to be used to fund private school ...

Education for a year. >> that wasn't the question. >> the idea that she -- >> that wasn't the question. stop right there -- >> let me finish. why are you filibustering me? >> when she was in michigan did she visit the schools and that's what she responded to. >> she could have gone and visited them in the year since she's been secretary of education. >> that wasn't the question. >> the particular line on school choice that's unvalidated by fact. she should be visiting these low performing schools before and after she passes judgment on why they are low performing. she had not done that. she's ...