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doing their business. this might actually start on time. mike pompeo doesn t get enough attention. there is two scenarios, he was helping to orchestrate the off book political campaign run by donald trump and rudy giuliani, or he was oblivious to what was being done to all of his employees. he was asked repeatedly to defend her, and we have on the record in testimony a call from the state department to yovanovitch at 1:00 in the morning where they say we need to get you out on the next plane. what did he do? i think the fact pattern is just as par real for mike cpompeo as trump. we know that mike pompeo was listening in on the phone call of which donald trump said of that former ambassador. that bad woman, bad things are going to happen to her and her former boss, secretary pompeo didn t do anything. lisa, you work at the state department for a republican administration. what impact does this have on the state department today and in the future. i agree with nicole t ....
it was not in any record i july 25th call. and this is consistent with the reported comments from received. but when you did see . ambassadors volker and taylor. after the zelensky meeting, i yes, i saw that in september, also met with zelensky s senior correct. so on this continuum, the aide, andre yermak. beginning of the continuum begins on may 23rd when the president instructs you to talk i don t recall the specifics of our conversation, but i believe the issue of investigations was to rudy? correct. and you understood that as a probably a part of that agenda direction by the president that you needed to satisfy the or meeting. concerns that rudy giuliani would express to you about what also, on july 26th, shortly the president wanted in ukraine? after our kiev meetings, i spoke not to me. by phone with president trump. to the entire group, volker, perry and myself, correct. the white house, which has now, in your opening finally, finally shared certain statem ....
was one of the largest allegations? i believe it was the largest national delegation. included in that delegation was secretary perry. secretary perry, ambassador sondland, myself, ron johnson was there, and at the u.s. embassy at the time joe pennington. we have talked a little bit this morning, but the president zelensky s inauguration came together quickly? did. we had three days notice in which to put the delegation together. there has been discussion whether the vice president was going to lead that effort and as it turned out, he was not able to lead it. do you have any information where the vice president was unable to join? i don t. mr. morrison, do you have any information as to why the vice president was unable to participate in the delegation? no. ambassador volker, you testified during your deposition that aid in fact gets held up from time to time for a whole assortment of reasons, is that your understanding? that is true. sometimes the ho ....
yes. now, ambassador taylor also testified that and mr. morrison both of them testified that you told them that president trump said there was no quid pro quo which you also included in the text message that you referred. but then you went on and they had slight variations as to what you told them, but then you said that to ambassador taylor that president zelenskiy himself not the prosecutor general needed to clear things up in public or there would be a stalemate. and mr. morrison recounted something similar. you don t have any reason to doubt that both of their very similar recollections of the conversations they had with you, do you, ambassador sondland? let me break that down, mr. goldman. the text as i said about the no quid pro quo was my effort to respond to ambassador taylor s concerns to go to president trump apparently ambassador taylor had access to secretary pompeo. he did not have access to president trump so i made the phone call. i said what do you want? ....
phoebe with ambassador taylor, was he assesssatisfied that thie was now behindti him? i don t really know, because when i responded, get ahold of the secretary, and he said i agree. i never knew i whether he reach out to the secretaryhe or not. that was sort of the end at one point in the text you said let s get on the phone, you said you re an individual that doesn t like to walk through these issues on texts when you can talk about it on the 1 telephone, correct? i say that to everybody when something becomes more substantive than a few lines of text, i say, let s talk. did you say that to ambassador taylor? i don t recall. i don t recall whether we spoke after that or whether he called the secretary. basically, mr. castor, wanted to get the notion across that i ve gone as far as i can go with this, you need to you re the ambassador, you need to pick up the ball and run with it at this point. okay. just getting back to the irregular channel, did anyone else expre ....