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Members of congress have always been fighting the president is trying to take that authority away too much. it can't sit well. your ideology can't match with the man you're defending. >> right. so their argument is, well, if not for him, hillary clinton would be president. no, she wouldn't be. actually mike pence, a very good from their perspective conservative would be. so they tell them these things to get them through, that this is just the media. that if they let them win on this one, they'll take down any president. that if the president shows weakness, then elizabeth warren will become p...

Trying to take that authority away too much. it can't sit well. your ideology can't match with the man you're defending. >> right. so their argument is, well, if not for him, hillary clinton would be president. no, she wouldn't be. actually mike pence, a very good from their perspective conservative would be. so they tell them these things to get them through, that this is just the media. that if they let them win on this one, they'll take down any president. that if the president shows weakness, then elizabeth warren will become president. so they come up with all of these excuses, these just...

You. >> there are abduls in this country so maybe we had improvement. >> we did. you have political papers all owned by individuals who had political axes to grind and this is a reassertion of a philosophy that was guiding political media back in the golden days. we are back there again when you have an unregulated environment which is by the way a good thing. >> what is will divisiveness when you look at the race card the grandma card trying to pit different age groups or individuals against one another. that keeps the message that is trying to be delivered to america especially from my persp...