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that are interested in sports? >> use their brains and not their fists. if they have anything to do with boxing, be the manager because usually they get all the money. >> after almost 130 episodes, "soul" was gorgeous. ♪ but in the end, when pbs announced its fall lineup for 1973, "soul" was not renewed for the funding. >> historically, a show like "soul" is very important. without "soul" you maybe don't have an arsenio hall. at the same time, it's never going to have the same impact as "the tonight show" because the money behind it and the circumstances behind it just are not equal. >> carson starts in 1962. he's a huge success by 1972. >> in 1972 peter lassally, who was then the producer of "the tonight show," felt it was time to move the show to the west coast.
>> i said to dave, we can't go near that offer. that's total bull shit, because they'll get out of it. and dave was really confused at that point. >> and peter lassally, you know what, dave? call johnny. and johnny said if they treated me the way they're treating you, no, i would go to cbs. >> tell them to go to hell. >> the announcement designed to keep you up at night, david letterman says he is for a price switching network, lock, stock and stupid pet tricks. >> ultimately, the deal that letterman wins is that astronomical. >> cbs lured him over with a salary more than four times of leno and giving him what he really wanted, the 11:30 time slot. >> there was so much hype and buildup to the launch of both of these shows, jay leno taking over from johnny carson. letterman getting this cbs spot.
>> after almost 130 episodes "soul" was gorgeous. ♪ but in the end when pbs announced its fall line-up for 1973 "soul" was not renewed for the funding. >> historically, a show like "soul" is very important. without "soul" you maybe don't have an arsenio hall. at the same time it's never going to have the same impact as "the tonight show" because the money behind it and the circumstances behind it just are not equal. >> carson starts in 1962. he's a huge success by 1972. >> in 1972 peter lassally, who was then the producer of "the tonight show," felt it was time to move the show to the west coast. ♪ >> you could get better guests
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