The board, east to west, north to south, that agree with what she's saying. now, there can be the policy wonks that will say, oh, that's horrible, and it may be tragic. it may be for you tragic, but with all due respect, she's a champion and she speaks for millions of people. >> mr. waldron, i thank you so much for your time. and we should note that -- >> thank you. >> and we should note that we did reach out to those named in the various filings about mr. waldron, including congresswoman bachmann, and while we have nothing to report at this stage, we would be glad to have them join us on this...