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SFGTV2 July 3, 2013 - Vimarsana News

SFGTV2 July 3, 2013

groaning about how difficult the complainants, when they have to go through a gauntlet lasting years to get the damn case before you. look at the historic record and it is all a matter of public record and you all know it and three of you are attorneys. and if people are doing stuff like this in court the judge would probably put sanctions against the attorneys involved. don't be hypocrites. >> any further public comment on this matter? >> yes, i'm peter warfield, director of the library users association and i don't have any direct interest in this case as a participant in any way b...

SFGTV July 3, 2013 - Vimarsana News

SFGTV July 3, 2013

>> excuse me mr. hartz i'm speaking. i think that we have raised two completely separate issues here. these complaints before us, relate to whether the inclusion of the 150-word statements in the minutes is a violation and we have to affirmatively find if we think that there was a violation. the commissioners may not all agree with me that the addendum is perfectly satisfactory way of accomplishing the statutory responsibilities. there is a separate issue that you commission have raced that is not before us and that is the responsibility of a city body that is required by law to main...

SFGTV2 July 3, 2013 - Vimarsana News

SFGTV2 July 3, 2013

>> i appreciate that. >> i said that i will ask you the same question when or after you have presented unless you want to incorporate it. >> you can have it. >> i think that we have it. >> thank you. >> may i answer the question, because it is right here in your packet. >> you may incorporate it in your comments or answer it afterwards, it is up to you. >> all right. >> may i answer the question she asked it, it is right here in the packet. >> well, it is your turn to present. >> i don't want to spend my time on this issue. >> then i will ask you at the end. >> right now as the chair...

SFGTV July 2, 2013 - Vimarsana News

SFGTV July 2, 2013

respectful engagement and i suspect to be a bridge in that regard and i look forward to participating with the staff and the commission and the community >> we are looking forward as well. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> now any public comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda? >> commissioners, ray hartz director of san francisco open government. i would much rather be home reading a good book and i am sure that you would rather i be anywhere else do anything else than here. i am going to talk tonight about the fact that although i am some what in some p...

SFGTV July 2, 2013 - Vimarsana News

SFGTV July 2, 2013

violation here of 67.16 because the library commission included the 150-word statements in the minutes. and in my view, in the minutes includes both in the body of the minutes, and in the addendum. one thing that i pointed out the last time is to me, a numbered document from one to... >> it is not your free speech. >> excuse me mr. hartz i'm speaking. i think that we have raised two completely separate issues here. these complaints before us, relate to whether the inclusion of the 150-word statements in the minutes is a violation and we have to affirmatively find if we think that the...