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>> jesse: i am jesse watters along with judge jeanine pirro, harold ford jr., sandra smith and will cain, it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ ron desantis and gavin newsom throwing down in the epic red versus blue state debate on "hannity" the governor's talking trash for months and finally getting the chance to hammer each other's record face- face-to-face. it's because they taxed too much, they regulate too much, they have a political agenda, they have lost a lot of companies. >> a 21 state population combined, the fifth largest economy in the world. >> he h...

>> hello, i am jesse wattersse along with judge jeanine carol,w harold ford jr., sandra smith and will gain.n, 5:00 in new york city and this is the five. ♪ ron desantis and gavin newsom going down in the epic redwing versus blue debate on hannity. the two high profiletr colonists talking trash for months and finally getting the chance to hammer each other's recorder face-to-face. >> the tax too much, they have f political agenda, not a good climate for business, they've lost a lot of companies. >> california dominates, 21 stat1 ste populations, fifth lae economy in the world. >> h...

>> jesse: i'm jesse watters with jeanine pirro, harold ford jr., sandra smith and will cain. it is 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ron desantis and gavin newsom throwing down in the epic red vs blue state debate on "hannity." talking trash for months and finally getting the chance to hammer each other's record face-to-face. >> they tax too much, political agenda, they lost companies. >> governor newsom: california dominates, fifth large economy in the world. >> governor desantis: he had gives locked out of school because of teachers union. >> governor newsom: last guy y...