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Until that favor is done for the president so that he can get dirt on his political rival. and, you know, the essence of impeachment has always been as was said by a congressman in 2008 when a president puts his personal interests above those of the american people, and that congressman was mike pence then sitting in congress now the vice president. that'sa always been the standar. this july 25th phone call transcript -- we don't even have the full transcript but just what the president himself has released is so damning. and this president and his allies throw up chaff and distraction. and wi...

In trump won districts, 13 in romney/mccain trump zupgss and will they walk the plank knowing that donald trump will be acquitted by the senate a few weeks later. >> what do you think about the broader political message from democrats today. >> sure. well first of all i think it is not walking the plank. they're all out there and they've been owning this. and the reason we're at the point we are at is because we have a phone call transcript or notes from a transcript that prompted the moderate democrats in those at-risk districts from coming out fully for proceeding with impeachment proceeding...

Mr. giuliani and president trump to want the burisma investigation was tofor politic benefits, digging up dirt or getting information on vice president biden. that's what you learned subsequently, right? >> it is correct i learned about the president's interest in investigating vice president biden from the phone call transcript that came much, much later. from giuliani, i didn't know that he was actively pursuing this. i know he raised this with me directly and i had pushed back on it. >> well, you knew that ambassador sondland was pursuing this at the july 10th meeting when he raised these i...

Mr. giuliani and president trump to want to the burisma investigation was to further political benefits and digging up dirt or getting some information on vice president biden. that's what you learned subsequently, right? >> it is correct that i learned about the president's interest in investigating vice president biden from the phone call transcript gained much, much later. from giuliani i did not know that he was actively pursuing this. i did know that he raise this with me directly and i push back on it. >> well, you knew that ambassador sondland was pursuing this at the july 10th meeting ...

Retrospect, if you did not about fighting corruption and realize the purpose for mr. giuliani and president trump to mr. yermac provided me a draft want the burisma investigation was to -- for political benefits statement and i wanted to be in digging up dirt or getting assured that this statement some information on vice would actually correct the president biden, that's what you perception that mr. giuliani had learned subsequently, right? >> it's correct that i learned of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also about the president's interest be conveyed to president trum...