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Now and the white house has proposed a $4.5 billion spending package and most of it goes for humanitarian aid for new places for the migrant. some of them are children, some of them are not, to stay. "the new york times" editorial board said, quote, in short it is time for congress to stop dithering and pass emergency funding to deal with this nightmare. democrats are standing in the way of this. they don't agree with it. is it possible that your party, democrats in congress, are putting politics above what these migrants need right now? >> i think what we most need is comprehensive bipartisan...

Is sort of in a -- you know, a side way blamed it on foreign pilots, but these were american pilots complaining about this. >> absolutely. it's been known and it goes back, jim, to a critical error that happened within boeing when this aircraft was in design and that was that this system was categorized as something that wasn't a flight safety issue and by design it really wasn't at the time. what happened is it became a safety of flight issue when they stopped -- when they started relying on it, allowing it to move the horizontal stabilizer in a way that's nonrecoverable. it was lack of fores...

Presidents. >> you think it's a big picture issue, not just the third chief of staff. >> i think the president of the united states, donald trump, does what he wants, says what he wants, whenever he wants. and he will not be managed. so i think it puts whoever the chief of staff is in a very, very difficult position. one that is not only unpleasant but very humiliating at times. we have seen that with reince priebus, and we have seen it with john kelly. i think save for nikki haley, it is hard to find someone who has left this administration without their reputation and integrity intact. so i ...

I was involved in several of these successfully but this time what they're getting in return is a summit with the president, something that they've always wanted to deal with the u.s. directly and they don't want to -- they don't want to have problems before the summit even starts. so i would suspect other gestures like this, other statements like kim jong un, you know, not having -- knocking out the nuclear facilities, not using it are forthcoming. but this is welcome for the families. they've suffered -- but these were trumped up charges and they should be released soon. >> you describe exac...

Sending this memo before it was declassified to the white house, they essentially shared with the president, whose campaign is under investigation, and with the white house counsel, who is a subject or a witness of this investigation, evidence in the case. so you have now read them in or given them a window into evidence, so that they could tailor testimony about what they now know about the investigation. that's not how you conduct investigations. that's another reason this is so wrong. >> let me ask you this because it gets to the bigger picture issue. we said this before earlier as well. th...