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And i had great soldiers, sailers, airmen, marines working for me. so you have to do a couple things. one, you have to have the experience to understand how the missions are going to infold. but you have to trust the troops to do the job. >> what do you do when something goes wrong? >> well, you have a plan b, plan c and plan d. we talked a little bit about the raid. when that helicopter went down in the compound, the reason i wasn't overly concerned, one, i was able to hear the radio traffic that was going on. so i knew pretty quickly the guys were okay. and we had a plan b. we knew the poten...

President's photographer. this is not the situation room. >> it's a little side room. >> it's a side room. the gentleman there in the middle is general brad webb. he was my deputy that i had sent to the white house to be my liaison. i believe when the helicopter came into the compound and had a hard landing and obviously there's a bit of concern on the faces of most of the people sitting around the table there. frankly, we had plan b and plan c and plan d. i wasn't particularly worried as long as i knew the guys were safe and i could tell from the radio calls that while the helicopter landed h...

Corner of the room. you were a little busy when this still photo was taken. what feelings does this conjure just seeing what the ere eother looked like? >> this is great iconic photo. i think it was taken by the president's photographer. this is not the situation room. >> it's a little side room. >> it's a side room. the gentleman there in the middle is general brad webb. he was a gentleman i sent there. i believe when the helicopter came into the compounds and had a hard landing and obviously there's a bit of concern on the faces of most of the people sitting around the table there. frankly, ...

>> it's a side room. the gentleman there in the middle is general brad webb. he was a gentleman i sent there. i believe when the helicopter came into the compounds and had a hard landing and obviously there's a bit of concern on the faces of most of the people sitting around the table there. frankly, we had plan b and plan c and plan d. i wasn't particularly worried as long as i knew the guys were safe and i could tell from the radio calls that while the helicopter landed hard, the boys were safe and we were moving on the plan b. >> they all got out of there. the admiral agreed to stay over a ...

Preferred by the border patrol because they can see through it is. my sense is that both sides saw the cliff of a shutdown. they did not want to jump and i think it's also how you characterize this. if you are going to be saying look what we made him do or her do then people are going to get bent out of shape and donors are going to react and then back with no more compromises on everything, ever. steve: i think the president forced the issue with the government shutdown. he sees some money and take that money and go along with the deal and i don't think he will declare a national emergency. l...