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Real world and is trying to score base political point. >> over the last year, two years, you do hear from democrats who say you know what? give him $10 billion for the wall if it means it will quiet him down and we can put adults in the room and figure out things here. >> i think they are willing to give a little if they can make improvements in other areas. >> that's right. >> john, if i can say, i think this is going on in the region. remember, i was born in nicaragua. it takes more than comprehensive immigration reform. i think it takes like a planned colombia. remember when there were joi...

Been double the u.s. applications. colombia has been helpful. the u.s. has had diplomat strategy in colombia called planned colombia. >> our relations with that -- it's building is, the colombia model seems to be the one model that worked. and it was bipartisan. it moved from clinton to bush to obama. nothing seemed to change there. and it look like at least this is in the mike pence portfolio? >> yeah. yeah. the vice president has taken a couple of trips down to the region. he will be going back to the region again next week actually to brazil to ecuador and to guatemala. >> do the leaders of...

Democratic leader, have you been briefed? >> not yet, i hope to be briefed net year. >> you heard senator graham, he didn't know we had a thousand troops in niger, did you? >> no, i did not. >> is it surprising leading members of congress would not have known about that deployment? >> it is, it is extremely surprising, in colombia, planned colombia, we are all aware of that, that's been going on 30 years. we had 900 troops at absolute peak. >> that is a very aware of it. when i was the u.s. southern command, i went there monthly checking in on them. i'm very surprised a deployment of that size...