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Coup is taking place which an election had been stolen and joe biden installed against the will of the people that would justify radical action and in many of the pleading documents in the reports, that's what lawyers say about the motivation of their clients. >> yeah, precisely. i feel like a little bit of a broken record on it. if you actually believed the election was stolend and you follow that logic, their actions make sense in their own minds. danny rodriguez, the insurrectionist who drove a stun gun into the neck of officer fanone, he was an associate of gina and they knew each other an...

Has not been a presentation by the defense, not been an examination, a cross examination of any of these witnesses. do you think that that should have happened as part of james' probe or that cuomo should call for that to happen next? >> yeah, jackie, that's one of the things that his lawyer complained about yesterday and i think they have a point on this. and it's this, if you were a prosecutor preparing an indictment, or you're a civil litigant preparing a complaint, you're careful only to put in the pleading documents, the charging documents, the things that you think i could prove by whate...

When those types of agreements are litigated, they turn out to be non-enforcible. it will depend on the type of agreement he had and whether a court would find that to be an enforcible contract. but i have to wonder what the benefit is of michael cohen to bring this suit at this time if all he's seeking is legal fees. again, i'll look forward to reading the actual pleading documents. if all he's seeking is legal fees, the money he would spend on legal fees to bring this suit would perhaps sort of counterbalance that out. so i'm very curious what the motivation is of this suit. >> kara scannell...

Just not right. >> okay. the cause, the basis for suspicion seems to be -- correct the aassertion and evaluating, was flynn discussing it with other members of the team? there are e-mails to this affect. at a minimum that moves away the speculation that he was somebody that went rogue and was an outlier and it adds to the suspicion, if all of these people knew and it was going on during the transition, how did the head of the transition not know? >> exactly. so we know that in the pleading documents, the statement of offense that flynn pleaded guilty to -- which means these are facts that muel...