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Here is what former senator bob graham, the chairman of this commission, said just this morning. >> it is more likely than not under the current circumstances and without decisive and urgent commitment that there will be a weapon of mass destruction used by a terrorist organization some place on earth between now and the end of 2013. >> nbc's justice correspondent pete williams joins us. pete, does this information, this report from the commission, come as a big surprise? >> reporter: that conclusion they reached last year. this year's report, tamron, is to look at what the government has done...

In, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on full body scanners i don't think is the answer to terrorism. we have to look at things like, for instance, there are explosive detectors that specifically detect petn. there's no real way that we know that a full body scan would have even detected the christmas day bomber. i think it's where do you put your money and specifically if you focus on operational responses. >> former new york city police commissioner howard safir, mr. safir, thanks for coming in. >> good to be with you. coming up on msnbc today at noon, chris jansing with talk with ...

It's a state and local and citizen problem as well as the federal government. our conclusion was that the best way to deter a terrorist attack with a biological weapon is for the terrorists to know that you're very well prepared, that you can reduce the impact of the attack to less than mass destruction. there are many steps required for that effective response, knowing that you're under attack, having the therapeutics to give to the people who have been impacted, to having proper medical care available. we think on all of those links of the chain of response, we are woefully weak. >> we're lo...

I'm chris jansing, live in new york. here is what's happening live right now on msnbc. failing grade. nearly ten years after the 9/11 terror attacks, the u.s. government gets an f on its response time to a biological attack. we'll talk to former senator bob graham, chairman of the committee measuring our national security measures. the national deficit balloons to $1.35 trillion this year. the president has a plan for a three-year freeze on spending. will congress support the plan and will it really make a difference? tea for two. actually $249. participants are pulling out, protesting t...