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Haven't tried. that is to impose costs on ch a china. we haven't done that. that deal president clinton was referring to is the frame work. the north korean were doing it as the ink was drying. they were saying this was only going to be their plutonium program. we have a series of failed deal with north korea. we need something in the line of sanctions. not just on north korea but also china. >> where is the read line? does this administration need to be clear about where the red line is and then actual follow through on it. >> if you say strategic patience is no longer our policy and has

Not our friend right now, that the russians may very well hack his e-mails and that of his staff and dump things damaging to him. he has to be prepared to stand up to that. he has to be prepared to make sure there are consequences for any russian meddling in our political affairs. >> trump vowed to cut aspects of president obama's foreign policy on his first day, including the iran deal. i want you to help us understand what that would look like. >> well, you know, this is an area where it's easy to make pronouncements as a candidate. as the president, you have a different responsibility. iran...

How to be verified? >> reporter: well, you heard skepticism from the white house and i think that's the word across the world. kim jong-un boasted of this weapon in december and analysts then were skeptical. this test, this announcement was a surprise to washington, beijing and others. north koreans say it was a small or miniaturized hydrogen bomb. earlier this morning officialing tells nbc news that the intensity of the blast was way below the average magnitude expected from a hydrogen bomb and can be dozens or hundreds of times more powerful than an atomic weapon. it will be weeks or months ...

Sanction iran and make sure we could freeze the nuclear program. i think this is a sensible arrangement in the sense that it freezes iran's program for ten to 15 years. obviously, there are trade offs and compromises, but probably the right way for the united states to go. >> as someone who followed the process from the conception in this round of talks, is this better than what was in place before it? >> well, it continues the freezing of iran's program over the last year and a half but better than what came before that. iran was unfettered. it had no constraints on the uranium enrichment pro...

Throughout, mr. ambassador, the iranians needed this more than we needed it. is that still your belief? >> it is still my belief. the sanctions that were universal in iran were choking their economy. >> the plutonium program in a deep freeze for the next ten years. as jim walsh said on your show just a minute ago, they're only going to have 300 kilograms of uranium, not even weapons grade. they're not going to have a path to a nuclear weapon. shep, i think what members of congress have to keep in mind as well as the american public what's the alternative? if we had walked away from this deal, ...